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A Jolly Good Natter Over Coffee And Biscuits
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We were delighted when Sam from the Big Brother house agreed to join us for a jolly good natter. You’ll recall what a live wire he was during the series and he stayed true to form on this occasion too! We do hope you enjoy hearing his recollections.
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Hi everyone. On this episode of A Jolly Good Natter over Coffee and Biscuits, halfway through the episode my uh mic cut out, but you can still hear me faintly in the background. Please sit enjoy listening to Sam and Richard from the Big Rubber House.
SPEAKER_00Now, listen, okay, glad to see you're all joining us. Um my name is Richard Story. I am joined as ever by my erstwhile friend and uh co-presenter who always remembers his name, and he's gonna prove once again that he's remembered it this time.
SPEAKER_04Markham Rose! There we are.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes. Now we've got the YouTube recording happening over there, and we've got the live TikTok happening over here. Um you're welcome to uh send in your questions and or in the text here, and also please watch the YouTube recording afterwards. And please subscribe to our channel, which is called A Jolly Good Natter over Coffee and Biscuits. And if you do that, we will love you forever.
SPEAKER_04We certainly will.
SPEAKER_00We will now you might think that having Mark and I here is enough. We do, we do, don't we? But have we got a treat? Have we got a treat? We certainly do. We do, we have a treat for you today, because you will remember, those of you who uh were loyally putting up with seeing me in the Big Brother house for all those weeks will remember that one of my fellow housemates, um who was the most extraordinary emerging singer with an incredible stage presence, is here with us as our special guest today. Please welcome the extraordinary and utterly indefatigable Sam Ashby. Woo! Oh my god, you're very tired. No, no, it's quite bad. Well, uh now uh there will be questions coming in up here. Uh oh, someone said I've got loads of questions, but they haven't put any yet. But while we're just waiting to see what the questions are gonna be, and perhaps we can just start by it into our special guest today. Um obviously in the Big Brother house, there were all kinds of things went on, lots of conversations, lots of tasks, and all kinds of things. Is there, would you say there is one particular lasting memory from that whole experience that you're gonna carry with you? When when you think of your time in the Big Brother house, does one thing jump to the top of your mind?
SPEAKER_01Um the most standout moment for me that I'll never forget will be the fake eviction. Like that was absolutely insane for me. And I think for everybody, because we had no idea it was happening. We thought it was real, I was crying, having everyone like seeing by everyone, what we're gonna do. And then I walk out, and it was the whole all this everyone's holding all this science because they couldn't say anything. Like, there's a fake eviction we can't share. And I was like, what the hell is happening? That will forever play my mind. Forever and ever and ever.
SPEAKER_00Well, funny you should mention that because after that, as with any eviction, we all get called into the diary room afterwards. And and he would always say, you know, how's the atmosphere in the house after the eviction? And I remember when I was called in to the uh diary room after what we then discovered was a fake eviction, but we didn't know it then. Yeah, we thought you'd really gone. And and I was asked, you know, what's the atmosphere like? And I said, Well, the atmosphere in the house is fine, but I've never known an eviction like that. Because usually when it's announced, there's like a cheer or a sigh or something. But it was absolutely silent.
SPEAKER_01It was dead silent.
SPEAKER_00I've never known anything like that before. And Big Brother just he kept quiet, he didn't say anything, gave nothing away. But yeah, yes, extraordinary really.
SPEAKER_01We were none the wiser honestly.
SPEAKER_00Yes, extraordinary, extraordinary.
SPEAKER_04But how have you been anyway, there's Dan? So, you know, uh obviously not many people probably may not know what you've been up to since you left the rubber house. Yeah. Can you just give us a brief insight?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I've literally just been kind of soaking up everything that comes up with Braddah. Like, you know me, any particularity, I'll take it. Yeah. I've been going to like everything I can, every kind of event I would always dream of going to, like little premieres and screenings and stuff, and doing all my music again, getting my music out there, um, doing a few performances, but kind of building up for the summer really. So just kind of yeah, relaunching everything as Sam as opposed to a Smash Before. So yeah, it's been a big change.
SPEAKER_04Have you got anything lined up that you may be able to let people know that you're gonna be doing in the summer, by the way?
SPEAKER_01Um well I'm pretty much like touring the whole country. Like I'm doing a few headline shows starting from next week, which I'm really scared for. I'm doing Glasgow next week, I'm doing the London Eurovision ball after that, I'm co-hosting and performing at that, which is insane. And then headlining a Manchester show, and then it's Pride for me from May to September, like all summer. That's brilliant. I'm really excited. Yeah, brilliant. Wow.
SPEAKER_00It's interesting to hear uh all the progress that you're making with your singing because of course one of the things that we tried to do in the house. Oh god, yeah. Well, well, because your style is is very kind of contemporary pop. Yeah. Is that the right word? Sure, it's a lot of things. My composition of style is not like that. Mine is made more kind of sort of romantic theatrical, you might say. And we did consider the possibility of pooling resources and seeing whether a kind of fusion of styles might come up with something rather good. And we did ask, if you remember, we did for a piano. We asked Big Brother whether he would bring a piano in to one of those side rooms, and even just for a couple of hours, we would have to do it. Just to do something with something.
SPEAKER_01We would have smashed that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and in fact, in my last visit, not my last visit, my last visit to the Minnie Mart shop thing. Yeah, while you were still there, I did I did say, you know, can I buy, you know, I'll buy a piano to bring a piano in and we can do this, you know, joint composition effort. And and there was a moment of pause, and and and Big Brother said, One day, Richard.
SPEAKER_01One day. The day can still come. Now we're frame can do what we're never. I think we need to like a Disney style moment. Because that's a nice hybrid for us, too.
SPEAKER_00Well, because a lot of your songs that I've heard are are quite up-tempo in what's that? But I've also heard you do some that are much more kind of sedate and and expressively shaped and pull at the heartstrings. Yeah. Um, and I actually, yes, I think there would be some, you know, and I think you're worth exploring.
SPEAKER_01I think definitely we should do it, Richard. 100%.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, yeah, there you go. Well, you heard it here first.
SPEAKER_01Hurrah's incoming eyes.
SPEAKER_00Who knows? Who knows? Right, okay, now let's have a look at a few questions because there's lots of things here. Um, Jenny is here. Jenny, she's saying I love it. Jenny, I hope you're extremely well. Um right now, let's see. Uh-da-da. Oh, there's so many millions of things. I'm just trying to scroll through and find a question. Um, Sam says, a different Samuel says, I was heartbroken when Sam left.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_00Someone with another someone with a frenetic name says, Richard, I loved you so much we need you back. Oh, yes, but the series has ended now. Um All Stars. There's always all stars. And Ditcher, who's one of my loyal TikTok followers, says Sam and Richard were my favourite big brother content. Oh, there you are. That's so different as well. I replied them both. That's so funny. Um, and then someone called Estherino says, Does Sam know me? Do you know someone called Ashtravino?
SPEAKER_01Probably about my face first. I need to see the person's hand. Oh, right. We'll look at the pitch afterwards. Yeah, I see that. Yeah. And then 10 seconds later, um, literally, just want to see the pictures, I'm like, oh my god, yeah, I'm always seeing that.
SPEAKER_04So I'll have to look at the comments afterwards and trying to. So easy, is there any other housemates that you actually see outside on a regular basis at all?
SPEAKER_01Justin Jenny um last week, which was so last minute unexpected, but really, really fun. We had the best time. I think everyone expects us to hate each other. It was it was a blip, like literally, even in the house, we were friends about say three quarters of the time, like the majority. It was just a couple weeks where we were just like that with each other.
SPEAKER_04I think it happened. I think because we're the the last couple of weeks, uh kind of finished the show's finishing off. Yeah, the tensions too.
SPEAKER_01That's it. I think that's what it was. Yeah, exactly. The people that I had the most friction with in the house were Jenny and Tate. And now I'm probably on best terms with Jenny and Tate. So it's just so weird when you think about it. So then two I'm really good with, obviously, Nancy's my absolute rider, diet for life. I see her almost every single week when she's here in the UK, not in Italy. Um, so I'm missing her a lot. Um, Emily, I see a lot, I love Emily. Um, I think that's all I've seen since the house. I've I've seen people at parties and stuff and at events in passing, and there's been things that happened there. Um, but I spoke to people like Caroline, I've not seen her since your best friend, John Latin. I've not seen her since her shouldn't be named. That's all that's the podcast. Um yeah, I've not seen her since a message all the time. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's interesting that that the mention of the character. Because people felt very sorry for me. I know. But I I it didn't really bother me.
SPEAKER_01Did you feel a bit like it was a bit personal, or did you think it's a joke? Because I thought it was all kind of funny.
SPEAKER_00It was kind of funny. The strange thing was when she kind of had her knives out for me, yeah, um, she said all those things when there was like a group of us all standing around. Exactly. But when it was just she and I having a chat ours own selves, it was just perfectly nice and it was all right. And in fact, if you remember, right back at the beginning where the four newbies, of whom I was one, yeah, we had to kind of do an eviction thing, uh nomination thing right then. Yeah. And when we had to stand there in a row and nominate who we were gonna do, it really took energy out of me. And I was recorded after that. Yeah, I just done it, Caroline, God bless her, was the first one over to me and says, Are you okay? You're all right. Exactly. And I had to say, No, that was awful.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, you know, so you know, there was a soft heart.
SPEAKER_01There is, I do feel like, because they only see what they see, obviously, which is the most entertaining stuff for today, which is when she's jabbing at you or whatever, having beef or whatever. But behind all that, there's such a warm heart, so I really got to know everyone in that show. And I feel like with her, I had a really good bomb because she did stick by me the whole way through. And so with that, I really did find like friendship in her, you know. So I miss Caroline, but I've not seen her since. So yeah. I speak to her a lot, and Garney speaks to her and um Nan speaks to her a lot as well. But we're not seen her, so yeah, I'm kind of CSE. She's cracking on with life, yeah. She looks like me now. We've both got dark hair, we look the exact same, honestly.
SPEAKER_04You had a big influence on her, though. Yeah, really.
SPEAKER_00Do you wear cowboy hats as well?
SPEAKER_01Well, I used to before the house, and now if I did it anymore, it's like huh, you know, it's um a little bit.
SPEAKER_00You see, here's a message from Sarah Louise who says, I think Caroline has a heart of gold. Bless her. She's just a pure wind up.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, she is a wind up. She loves like poking people and winding them up and then just sitting back and laughing. Yeah, and I find that funny as well.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, how's Nancy doing anyway? As you mentioned, she's in Italy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she's in Italy, having a little like refresh moment. Um, she's been modeling a lot since the house. She did that before, just doing it again. So she's smashing it, honestly. I'm really proud of her. That's fantastic. Yeah, because you two were just we're sticking a thing.
SPEAKER_04We're sisters for life. Yeah, it was really stuff you two got up to.
SPEAKER_02Oh no!
SPEAKER_04When I was watching it, I just thought to myself that you two act like little sisters.
SPEAKER_01We bring out like the child and each other completely. Because with her, it was instant bonding. Like, I think within the second night, we were saying like I love you, like twerking at the table with each other. We just found that connection so quickly. And so when you have that in experience like big brother, it takes you out completely. You don't think about the cameras or what people are thinking, you're just having the best time with each other, and then it all gets read out, and you're like, Oh no.
SPEAKER_00You're dead right about that because people always ask me. I mean, you probably found yourself. The questions we get asked tend to be the same cameras. And that's one of them. They say, Well, how do you cope with all those cameras and lights?
SPEAKER_01Because you just don't notice it. The only time was the toilet when I was like looking at it like I'm watching it. If it moved towards me, I was like getting up and running out, honestly. That was the only time I felt subconscious in that in that whole experience. I was like, I put this on TV.
SPEAKER_00But a lot of people who um watch the series are unaware that we get filmed even when we're in the loop. Which maybe no bit in.
SPEAKER_04But but how if you've got a big one and you're training and you you know you're if you're bloating things.
SPEAKER_01I don't go for days the first week, honestly. I was stressing. I was like in there, but I was like, I can't physically relax. Like I can't. So if ever bloated.
SPEAKER_04Your buttons are so tired.
SPEAKER_01A bit of that, honestly. If I ever look bloated in that shout, it's because I was holding on for July. Because I didn't want to go.
SPEAKER_00And and it was too far away. You you couldn't really we all had our little ways of trying to, you know, trying to cover our cover our dignity shit.
SPEAKER_01Oh I gotta know.
SPEAKER_00But but I mean those cameras they had in there weren't for broadcast, they were just seasoned.
SPEAKER_01They were just yeah, because anytime I'd be in there with Nancy and talking like Sam and Nancy, get out of the bathroom. We can't talk in there because they're air in a bit, and they didn't want to use it for context, obviously. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I did actually ask them in in in one of the pre um serious chats. Yeah, yeah. I did say to them, is it really necessary to have the cameras? And they said, We actually have to do it for health and safety. Oh also who's health and safety? Well, exactly. But but but it wouldn't ever be shown, you know. It's just CCTV, where all the other cameras are you know for broadcast. Yeah. But they did say, but also it's in case anyone tries to go in there and have a secret conversation that they're not allowed to. Well, did anyone do that? Um Lily Benson, you know, Lily? I'm seeing her today. She says, Tell Sam I said hi. Lily!
SPEAKER_01She is me in like girl form, honestly. I've got on summer with Lily to tune. Tell everyone who Lily is. Lily is the queen of season two of ITV Big Brother. And um, I literally watched that and I was like, I hope I get to like have a reaction like Lily when I do the house and stuff. And I think I've had probably a more extreme one, but like she's such an icon in a deep out. I love that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. She's amazing. It's interesting, isn't it? That um a question I've been asked a lot since then is is how do they decide who's gonna go in? Because I'm applying now. Can you give me any advice and blah blah blah? Oh my god. And I mean, and I don't know how they go about deciding who's gonna interact well with with others, A, B, or C or D. I mean, the the particular lineup of people who were in our series, I mean, we were rather different.
SPEAKER_01Completely. But but but we could chat to each other, and it was. I feel like we channeled really well, and so that's what I was so surprised when there was so much drama watching it back. I was like, I thought it was really calm most of the time. But um, did you hear about the whole casting thing for me and how it went about getting on the show? No. So I applied, unlike some people in the house and stuff. So I applied, went through all the auditions, and then it got to like two weeks before, and I got a call saying you've not made it this time. Right. Would you do the thing that you did, the the free run? Yeah, and I was like, really got it, and I was like, oh like I'll do it, yeah. But I'm like really heartbroken and didn't get it. Because I thought I had it in the bag, and I was like, Oh my god, what a shame. And I think because I'd get calling like Abby, the one of the producers, I was like, Why didn't I get it? Like, I just need to know why I kept pushing that. And she was like, it's just one of those things, Sam, like, stop calling me. And then Sam's like, literally, and he got to the point, but then thought, we need to tell him he's actually got it because he's probably gonna like lose his mind soon. So then a week before launch night, I got a call saying, Can you come to London tonight? I was like, what for for the dry run? I was like, Do I have to be there that early? And she was like, No, it's it's the VT that made it on the the show. And I was like, What the hell? So in like 24 hours, I just go to London and do the VT and then yeah.
SPEAKER_04So what was you doing that that 24 hours? Because obviously, I'm assuming you was doing I was covering a zombie class that morning, literally.
SPEAKER_01So I was covering my friend's zombie class, and I was actually gonna do it and like shake my booty and stuff, and then I get to go and I was like, How are you saying can you come? I was like, is it necessary? Oh I was like a bachelor's class, and she was like, You literally have to come.
SPEAKER_04And I was like, Okay, perfect, I'm there. So, how much how much you know, how much prep did you have to kind of do? Because literally I don't yeah, I moved for a week before that was going into it.
SPEAKER_01It isn't very long when you're me and got all the outfits together. I need to prepare for course the outfits, yeah. Do you know what I mean? I just get Botox done and everything topping up, and so it was so like crazy. I had such a lot to do, and then my mum was like on the cut with the car and told her she was like being sick, letting like a McDonald's bag, like it was so intense because we just didn't have any clue what's gonna happen. So it was really dramatic.
SPEAKER_00But this is extraordinary because you're your it sounds like your um processing that last bit of the whole thing has similarities to mine.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because you got told like after the drive run, didn't you?
SPEAKER_00Um well I was told, I got the email that said, Thank you very much for auditioning. On this occasion, we don't want you, but but please apply for the next series. Yeah. So then, because you know we couldn't tell anybody so I locked down. So I then I was going around to everybody saying, You know that thing I couldn't tell you about? Yeah, well, I haven't got it. So I can tell you now. This is what I was, but then you get it, then they phoned me back and said, Would you do the dry run? Yeah. And I thought, oh, I don't know whether I kind of want to do that. Anyway, I said I would. Did the dry run, uh-huh, and at the end of it, we're all standing there with bags packed and everything, and ready to go. And there's a fella calling taxis for everybody, and he said to me, Do you mind if I book your taxi last? Oh my god. You're in London, you're the you're the nearest one. Yeah. Everyone hasn't got much further to go. So I said, fine, fine, fine. So people are you know disappearing one after another, lots of hoax. Love you to meet you, love me to meet you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And in the end, I'm standing there on my own. Uh-huh. And at which point, he, instead of calling a taxi for me, he just put his phone away and says, Would you step back into the office of producers and want to speak to you?
SPEAKER_01Oh, my aunt will be like that.
SPEAKER_00And that's when I was told we really enjoyed having you on the dry run, so much so would you like to do the real thing? So I had three days next. Oh, you had less time than me, Richard. Well, it was it was a hasty thing, but that's why I I'm assuming um why I wasn't involved in the live launch, because I joined the house the next day. Yeah, exactly. I know the live launch was really fun. I loved that part. I was I I'm sorry I missed that. I know I was trying to prime the pump, as they say, because every time I was in the diary room, I was saying, you know, I really hope I don't get a backdoor eviction because I didn't get to stand on the catwalk. I want to see all the laser lights. So when my time comes, I want to go out and the whole time. Not through a side door like I went in. Um anyway, and then as it turned out, it was a lot of people.
SPEAKER_01You got kind of a biggest exit to be honest, Red Shirt.
SPEAKER_00Well, well, I did, didn't I?
SPEAKER_01I did.
SPEAKER_00It's a once-in-a-lifetime thing. I've never had anything like that. And I suppose in all reality, it's probably not going to happen again. But all those laser lights and the fireworks, and well, you never know. You never know. Maybe maybe they'll invite me back to the next one.
SPEAKER_01I think they'll do an all-stars because that is like a new thing. Like Amos Leb is doing an all-stars, Red Fair Flight is doing all-stars. So I think the brother would be stupid enough to do an all-stars further then.
SPEAKER_00So would that be basically doing the whole thing again?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but like the people that have already done it and then the people that have kind of got yeah, yeah. Would you want to go through all that again? I well, I think about this a lot because I really had a turbulent journey. Like out of everybody, I think I really had the craziest time. So I kind of feel like I don't know, because it's such a lot to go through, but also I feel like redemption is needed. When I ended for me, it felt very negative. And I feel like I went out with so many enemies at the time and so much drama, which I didn't expect to happen, and then late in live finale, all that happened, and I was just hilarious.
SPEAKER_04You know what? I was sitting there. You know what? That was the funniest funniest late in life I ever seen. I was like me and Richard's brother was just cracking out. He was just like, you and Nancy just was like, we would have been none of it. None of it. I'd seen from my ears, literally. The thing is, I thought Secure were gonna come over at one point.
SPEAKER_01I was like, Yeah. Because I was like, Do you know what? If I'd have because I forgot that I was mic'd up during that like whole thing with like zeal and everything. So when he man pulled the mic away, that one on the long stick, I thought I couldn't talk anymore. If I'd have known I could have kept talking and said everything, I'd have thrown everyone on the bus completely and me, like this, that, and the other. But I was so overwhelmed, I was just like, guess that's it, guess that's it, whatever. But I was foaming, and then between other admires was running off and like crying, and then like what's going on? And mess me up on this show.
SPEAKER_04It was alcohol, too much alcohol and probably.
SPEAKER_01No, not at all. I then had one bus ball. I was just livid at the way that it was, yeah. I felt like I just felt like Zilla got all the time to talk, and then I was just reacting to it all in real time. And I was like, oh my god, I can't even process this and respond in quick time, and then it was ad break, ad break, and I was like, I'm just gonna honestly lose my in a minute.
SPEAKER_04So sometimes the best thing to do is just take a couple of seconds, you know, and then process it and answer. But yeah, I we've all been there, you know. I've I've been there, yeah, it happened. That's what we do in there at the end of the day. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I feel like all like the hard work I'd done before the house, be a good person, a worker myself, and out the window and I did the show because I was just like dealing with so much that I was like, I can't even process any of this.
SPEAKER_04But you also you've got to think where you've been in that house for such an extended period of time and then coming into reality again. Oh my god. Which is gonna be a culture shock. So to be honest, you shouldn't even knock yourself down for that at all.
SPEAKER_01No, I just wish I'd really mouthed off and given it back, but whatever.
SPEAKER_00Oh wow. Have you watched the series back yourself? Yeah, yeah. All of the well, I have as well. Yeah. And um when I saw your diary room sessions, which of course we're all compared to each one of them, uh I went I I saw you getting a bit tearful in some of those, and I thought, gosh, I didn't realise that had happened, you see. So much.
SPEAKER_01And this is why when it happened with the whole Jenny Jigsaw thing, and when I said, I've not seen I had a breakdown yet, I'd had five by the second week. So to me, I thought if someone wasn't freaking out, I thought, how are they coping so well with this? So that was why I was like seeing her that way, she's always happy, always doing such like always cracking jokes. I thought I'm cracking up every other day in here. Just because I'd gone in and night one a prediction, and then like had you know stuff with George and things, it was just really intense, and then the Zila stuff, and it was like I thought I got all the drama, yeah.
SPEAKER_04You because you yeah, just touching on George and Seila, and you you were dealing with a lot of yeah, a lot of uh emotions from a lot of people. So and the thing is where you couldn't actually step away from it, really, because at the end of the day, you're in a house with all these other people, if you go to a room, they're gonna follow you. The only place you could be safe is in the is in the toilet. Yeah, the two places. And this is there.
SPEAKER_01You kind of forget the die room is like informing the audience what's happening. I saw it as an actual therapy session, so I was uh like it's getting all out, and then laughing shown. I'm like, perfect. Yes. Well to be honest, I think that's good because. Yeah, this is it. Yeah, it was emotional. And like the stuff like with George, for example, I think it'd handle that a lot better in day-to-day life because you've got your vices and your people you can lean over. In there, you still cut against everybody, and you're so everything's so visible in a way, because you know everything can be used for the show. So you just don't know what how honest to be, you know. And then yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well indeed. I mean in the in the um kind of pre-preamble, before we actually went into the house and they were coming around to give us little bits of advice and pointers and so on, I did ask them specifically. I said, what if something happens and I come along to the diary room and say, Right, I want to talk to you about something, but I'd rather it wasn't broadcast. Yeah. Do we have that option? Yeah. And he said, Um, well, you don't have that option. Yeah. But of course, we can't broadcast everything because we've only got that much time and that much time. So if there is something that shouldn't go out, it probably won't. Yeah, exactly. But we can't make any sort of promises because it's all all filmed.
SPEAKER_04It's wild, isn't it? Yeah. So so what did you think of obviously? I know you and George didn't. So what's your feelings on George now that you've come out of the house? Have you got a different mindset?
SPEAKER_01What's your I never actually had like a problem with George. I didn't agree with stuff he said, but that's goes for a lot of people in the house. Let's just lie. So that was whatever. I feel like from what I observed, I feel like George is just someone that wanted to get attention from the show, as we all do in different ways. So I think he was more kind of like how I liked poke people for fun and to wind them up. I think he did it in a different way by causing arguments and like controversial conversations, and that was his tactic to get there. So I just saw it as someone who seemed quite warm as a person but liked to kind of poke the bear a little bit. That's how I kind of saw it. Because like when um I pulled him to the side and tried to say how I felt about the impression, he seemed really apologetic and really warm about it. So from that I took, oh, he's actually quite a nice person, he's just kind of staying or listening up for the cameras, whatever. Then watching it back, he walks away and pulls a face at me. So I don't really know. So George, I'm just indifferent to George, we're very different people. Yes. We're never gonna see each other again. I don't have anything negative to say about him, I just don't align with him as a person. So yeah. But I'd have been a lot less emotional than that in real life, because I'd have my my biases then, you know. So it worked for it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Right. Well, we we better uh out of uh dutiful um yes, yes, because lots of people have been saying things, so I'm just gonna scroll through randomly and see what I can find here. Oh, I've got to mention this one. Uh someone called Westlife999 says, and I quote, You are bloody amazing, Richard Ireland loves you. Ireland loves you, here we go. There we go. I thought I thought Ireland loved Jenny, but there we are. There we go. Um finding an island. Sam, the other Sam, not you, says, um, oh, it's gone, it's vanished up the screen. Sam should have his oh, I wish Sam had his orange wig on.
SPEAKER_04Now that's that uh come to your mentor, we'll find it, but your stream is frozen there, Richard.
SPEAKER_00Uh oh, oh has it? Right. Well, I don't know how to fix that then.
SPEAKER_01Ask the comments if it's frozen and see if it's frozen than um.
SPEAKER_00Right. Okay, folks, uh, we just had a message that the um my image here on the TikTok screen seemed to have frozen, but the comments are still live, so uh hopefully it'll start working again soon. Um anyway, well, we're gonna carry on because of the uh the recording. Yes, so I was just gonna say that thing about the orange wig is my memory because although we all chatted to each other at various times about various things and for various lengths, I think it's probably true to say that when you and I had our longest conversation with an orange wig, it was when we were both stuck in a cage in the garden.
SPEAKER_01You had to send nothing to me at for hours and hours and hours.
SPEAKER_00Well, I did, yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, how I put up with that idea.
SPEAKER_00But no, that's when we were talking. There we go.
SPEAKER_01Sorry, believe me.
SPEAKER_00But that's gonna be we had our best talk about the potential songwriting thing.
SPEAKER_01That was we talked about a lot. I really enjoyed the conversation because it was like we were freezing outside in the place.
SPEAKER_00It was quite cold, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It was. I had the orange wing on, it was so iconic. But I thought this showed some of our conversation a bit more because you learned so much about each other. Yes, like I learned about your son there, my music thing we talked about, and then on potential cloud. We played the shopping game, I'm pretty sure. It was like go and buy things and you remember the whole list. Like it was really fun. I loved it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and also at the end of that, if you remember, we came within a hair's breadth of uh qualifying for a luxury budget. Um it was so close, it couldn't have been closer. And I w on reflection, I wish I'd had the kind of wherewithal to suddenly just chip up and say, Big brother, I've sat out there in the cold for eight hours to come out. Surely that must count for something. Come on. Can't you just give us those extra few points? A little point, a lot of myomad. Yeah, and that would have made the difference, but I just didn't think of it in you know, yeah, we're in fact.
SPEAKER_04So uh even though you two sat for eight hours together, have you even got a title for a song after all that eight hours?
SPEAKER_01We did write something in the house, but I can't remember what it was. We started writing something. I had an idea, and I was thinking, you know, that's kind of good. I don't remember what the words were.
SPEAKER_02I know! You can do it now.
SPEAKER_00I could remember it. I wasn't we had no pens or paper or nothing.
SPEAKER_01You couldn't. How did I keep note of it? I did something. Yes. I didn't just repeat it again again and again again, but I've forgotten now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yes, yes. I because I can tune said, what about a a thing that a line that goes like this and give you an opening line or something?
SPEAKER_01We did, and then we kind of made it build. It was like a climb moment, like Miley Cyrus.
SPEAKER_00It's kind of gonna be like But we couldn't write anything down, we had no We had no access to pens, papers, or nothing. We'd also like a write in J Richard and we'll see what we come up with.
SPEAKER_01I'm down for it. It'd be great. Um right, okay. Oh, oh, oh. If they did like a All-Stars moment, I I think maybe I would do. I think maybe I would do. I think, yeah, the redemption arc could be good. Depends what I'm doing at the time, but I definitely never say never for sure.
SPEAKER_03How would you change you as a person?
SPEAKER_01Do you know what I thought about this? Because my whole mindset the first time was to be like as nice to everyone as possible, make as many friends as I could, and that kind of thing, and I still came off looking like a bitch. So I think on reflection, if I'd have just been more upfront and less worried about hurting people's feelings and just been honest, maybe I'd have come across better. So I think maybe to not people please as much. But I was trying to be everyone's friend and did the right thing and it went the complete wrong way.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think a lot of people these days do people please, and that's the thing. The most important person is yourself. This is it, how you feel. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, that person may even forget what you said. Yeah. Let's just say you were very honest with them and you said, Look, I really don't like your outfit. Yeah, all they'll go is constructive c criticism. At the end of the day, they will go back and go, actually, maybe that person is right. Yeah, I should not wore those shoes with that. I know that outfit. I never did. Yeah. That's the thing. And then they'll go, wait, but they're gonna improve on themselves. You're you're sitting there thinking, Oh, maybe I know.
SPEAKER_01I never knew people pleasing was a thing until doing the show and getting that comment thrown to me so many times. I was like, what is that? So then watching it back, I'm like, oh, that's what I do. So it's like I've seen myself in a whole different line. I'm like, okay, it's something to learn and work from, I guess.
SPEAKER_04So what have you watched? So you said you you worked on, have you actually spoken so passionately about working on people? Because a lot of people do that, they work on people. I will do it. Yeah, you do realize that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I I'm gonna need a therapist and then I can start working on that. But I'm not aware of it.
SPEAKER_04So you can't speak to be profile.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, no. Um, so I think that's the only thing I'd change. I would just think don't try and be nice to say pivot to make everyone feel better, just until we actually think and did Michael Cross better, you know. But yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that's something I did have.
SPEAKER_00But it's interesting, we all do have these um, you might call them idiosyncrasies, the things that we do or say that we're not maybe consciously aware of, but other people see it. Yeah. Um, and and in my case, the one that stood out, and I had no idea I did this until it was brought to my attention. Uh-huh. Was one day when we're all sitting around on the sofas, and I had to say something or answer a question or something, and I was just drawing breath to speak, and everybody else went, Well. Oh my god. That's such a thing.
SPEAKER_01That's I always think of you when someone says, Well, my well, and then the sentence would start.
SPEAKER_00I didn't know that I did that. Well, I mean, oh that was one.
SPEAKER_01That's so funny.
SPEAKER_00Do I say well a lot?
SPEAKER_01It's like the start of a sentence. It's like, well. And then it comes. And you just know it's coming. I think I said that on my late in live interview when I left. I like references to you in that. I was like, Well, and then I did my answer. It's influential.
SPEAKER_00There we go. All right, well, let's have a look at um uh oh Flynn says, tell Sam, Flynn said hi. Flynn. Hi. Ed says, OMG, it's music man Richard. Yes. Um uh uh oh oh oh oh oh splurge. Oh yeah, Frankie says hi, apparently. And and Zoe says hi, Richard, from Sam's mum. Oh, my mum is on! Yeah, and Liam Lawton is here. He's one of my loyal TikTok followers. Love that. Um Ben says, I think Sam is really funny. As we all been. Okay, now I've been asked this question before and I've answered it, so I will pass the question straight to you. Okay. Candy is saying, Can you give us any advice for applying to BB?
SPEAKER_01I think literally everyone said it, but it is the truest thing to be your absolute self because I done it before and applied, and I've been in like very different areas of my life where I was trying to prove something to people. Whereas this one, I had so many things going on, it was the most just like real audition type I'd ever done. I said it up, I just tried absolutely, and like I was just like making it all up and whatever, and just saying what came to mind, and I think they just saw that and thought, okay, fair enough. Like, that's who he is.
SPEAKER_04As I said, that's the reason why he won Richard won't because it's authentic because a lot of times he was playing a game. Yeah, um, sorry, Richard, but uh but uh but yeah, a lot of people yeah, thought you're playing games, but I see you on a regular basis, and this was just who you are. Well, that's who you are, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, my friend said that because like people, the biggest thing I saw leaving was my voice and everything like that. People like ha who is like Sam trying to be. My friend's like, that's who you've always been, so that's how I we know you. So they found it so weird having to read everyone, like criticize everything about me and see what's real and what's not, and so they were just like, Well, that's just how you are, and I was like, No, like I'm just saying myself, it was very expressive, and I think that's a lot for some people.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so yeah, I think where people see you as different, they're like, ah, let's try and be critical, yeah, let's just try and you know poke the bear, like you said about camera, yeah, try and poke the bear and see what we actually get. But you as long as you just carry on being you, yeah, the most important thing.
SPEAKER_01Some people say that and say I'm doing the exact same since the house.
SPEAKER_03I would agree with that. Yeah, had Richard not been there, my great friend over there, yeah, I was actually bidding for you to win.
SPEAKER_01Really?
SPEAKER_03That night in in Mozart here, we were watching earnestly because of course Richard being here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, of course.
SPEAKER_03And we I was saying to them said, definitely Sam's gonna win. He's gonna win. Oh he's just doing his own thing.
SPEAKER_01Thank you.
SPEAKER_03And you were walking the rope.
SPEAKER_01I was literally on the walking the rope the whole time, like, how the hell am I gonna navigate this? I I'll be honest, I really wanted to win as well. But we're getting in there, it's so different than what it expected to be. And then it became a thing of like, I'm just gonna survive this for as long as I can, do the best job I can, enjoy it. And like, I really did enjoy a lot of it, but you know, I got some tough rides in there.
SPEAKER_00I I remember you saying quite early on, or not well, at some point in the house, how early it was, when you said you've been dreaming of getting on that show since you were eight years old. Yeah, so that's a fair old wife. How many times did you apply?
SPEAKER_01I think two, I think two or three. Right. I'd um when I went to IT's when I started applying for it, because I wanted to apply for it when I was on five, yeah, it's not. Um on like 2018-19. Like I just had the thought process of on like 20 now, I should go and apply for it. I missed the cutoff point, was like, I'll do next year, and it got cancelled. So I was like, no, I'll never get to do that and live that dream. When it came back, I was on it. I was like every year like going for it. And then how many?
SPEAKER_00Well, so it was a long-held, a long-cherished.
SPEAKER_01It is, and that's why I'd never take it back because I still got to do the dream reality show I always wanted to do. So I wouldn't take it back because I love that my name's with that and I'm a part of that now forever. So I love that, but redemption's definitely needed.
SPEAKER_04You did mention that um you expected you thought it would be slightly different when you went into be private. What way did you think it would be when you went on the show and how it is different?
SPEAKER_01Um I think it's more the experience makes sense, like in like the house and the filming and the task and everything. I didn't realise it'd be so long and boring. Like on the days, there is a lot of downtime. We're just like, what the hell? Um, but I think I'm just not used to I normally in a room I get on with everyone and personally. I like always have done, I've always found I've done better in social situations and I have like just trying to get in the door with things. Once I'm there, people seem to get me. I feel like in the house, the first time I felt like people just were kind of like analysing me and criticizing things, and when people would say I think you're not being genuine, it really took me back, and then I started to like spiral. Interesting. So that was I didn't expect that at all. So um, yeah, I found that really, really weird.
SPEAKER_00Yes, and you're right about the downtime that and uh what's not ever shown on the actual series itself is all the time we're sitting here on the sofas in silence, literally, and then you the voice would say, This is Big Brother, da da da and then there'd be a pause and he'd start again. This is Big Brother so they could all edit it together, all the retakes and everything. But yes, there was a lot of time where we're just sitting around with with with so much, and I'm asked frequently which was your favourite task, and my favorite task was the perfect day one that we all had to keep going back. Oh, you've gone by then. I've gone, those are after that. I watched it. Well, we we all had to keep going back to bed every time we'd we made a mistake. But the thing about that was um we were all involved all the time. Yeah, whereas a lot of the other tasks, there'd be certain people busy then while everyone else is sitting around. Yeah, and and it was a lot of time just to sit around and do it.
SPEAKER_01It was my worst one, I can tell you straight away, is the hospital task. Like I was on that bed for so long, all day. I got the shit food, it was horrific. And then I was expected to go and then like criticize everybody and stuff for this x-ray thing to grow a backbone, and I was like, what the hell? So that one I hated the most, the one I like the most is the airplane one with Jenny.
SPEAKER_00Oh, right.
SPEAKER_01I think it's Smash That I mean Jenny was their hostesses. I really loved that one.
SPEAKER_00But that was a good fun one. That was good. And actually, just for a moment, I thought we were actually gonna stick with it because everyone was like, Oh, let's stop, let's stop.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And the in the first instance, I managed to kind of persuade everyone to carry on for a while. Yeah, but then the second time round, they're gonna be able to get it. Even lost it, I know. And then we were on budget rations, if you remember. I know that's when it started to go downhill because I came back in.
SPEAKER_01I think things felt so positive. And then once the um what's it called, basic budget came in, I think things started to get a bit aggy.
SPEAKER_00Oh, something.
SPEAKER_01And uh, it was something.
SPEAKER_00Um, right, uh, you might like to know that Milky Mandy says, Sam, my favourite song is Dear Charlotte. There you go. Milky Mandy. The name's I got it. Uh now, now we've got there's someone here called Bessie. Now she's one of my loyal followers. Uh huh. And she's always coming out with these, you know, little one-liners. And it's quite funny. It says, Ask Sam what colour he thinks Smurfs turn when they choke. There you had it, Bessie. Right. Because they've got burnt bones, so they're burned like red of Apple. Um Gigi Sparkles says, Hey Queen, I am performing at Leverder Vapes in Glastonbury. Oh, mate.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Lavender Vespers.
SPEAKER_00Oh, oh, oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01I've been there, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll have a great time, Gords. Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER_00Um Amber says, Can you say hi to my friend Chloe? She loves you. Go on, let's go. Hi, Chloe. Love you too. Um Lizzie is a Sam defender. Thank you, I need that. Um Sam says, the other Sam, I was fighting for my life defending Sam on Twitter.
SPEAKER_01God, I didn't really need Twitter when I came out of the house. That was hell. When I saw the tweets that hated me had more likes and I have followers, I was like, it's time to go. Like it just felt like it wasn't my place anymore. So yeah, X can can get gone. So you completely deleted it. Yeah. I was thinking about it anyway before the house because just that platform's very toxic. And then when I saw everything about me, I was like, yeah, I don't need this anymore. Back and go, Sam, how did anyone hate you? I don't know, but it's a it's a thing.
SPEAKER_03So I mean, the minute you walked onto that show, we were loving every moment. Thanks so much. I mean, this place here was actually Evelyn's watching right through the whole series. That's so nice. This whole place was livened up. We were getting drunk here actually.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna get drunk here. I'm gonna get drunk here. I um uh I feel like I thought I came in the best entrance I could ever do. I love my entrance so much. It's just very me. But even from that, I was in the exit room. So shows whatever I did. I was being myself, but it was still very divisive. So you just can't live with people. But it's what it is, it happened what it's meant to happen.
SPEAKER_00Bearing in mind all the highs and lows, the pros and cons, would you do it again?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I do like, yeah, of course. I think I love the show. Any chance I get to do something like that, I've gotta consider it. Do you know what I mean? Unless I'm physically not like in the country and I'm like away from something else, then it'd be different. But I would love to. I think just to see what happens, and I I know it now, I know I have to handle the process probably way better than I did before. So yeah, it'd be interesting.
SPEAKER_04Honestly, what was the once you did the final late in life, what was the first thing you actually did part of normal normal life again?
SPEAKER_01Um well the next day, once late in life was done. Yeah, once the party was done. Me and Nancy were in a hotel for the next day in London and we went to Popeye's um I think in Westfield or somewhere close to that. Yeah. And we obviously just sat, like staring into space for like three hours, been like, what the hell just happened? And trying to process it all. So we just kind of ate really shit food and got like bottles of wine second from the shop, and then when I took it up live, and we were just processing all, been like, I can't understand what just happened here. So just got a bonancy and ate Popeyes. And that was my first Popeyes. It was amazing. What did you think? I loved it. It was ten. Ten, completely. Everything's beige, I'm obsessed. So I mean anything unhealthy, I love it.
SPEAKER_00Now it's funny you should say that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because uh, in the midst of all of this serious, deep, profound conversation that we're having, yeah, uh, we have had a a something that has become a regular fixture uh of these podcasts, and we call it the taste test. Okay. Would you be willing to participate in our taste test? 100%, I'm ready. Well, this is one of my loyal followers called Chris from Bournemouth, who provided us with this box of jelly beans. I think I've got a message about this, actually. Yes, and if I just turn it round, you can see there, there are a picture. There's 50 different ones in here. Okay. Right? So thank you, Chris from Bournemouth. And uh, but I had to put a rubber band around it because during transit, they like fire they all get mixed up in the things.
SPEAKER_01One of those where they've got horrible flavours in there, spat you out. Like sick, nah. I don't know what you're thinking about. I've had them years ago. Oh my god, that's intense. I got all the rubbish ones. I got like sick poo. And it's just, you know, my luck of the drawbag. I think I got like sick, poo, nahe. And I was like, why is this happening? Yeah, all different ones, not the same.
SPEAKER_00You'd be guessing that's not the case here.
SPEAKER_01Thank God, okay.
SPEAKER_00What you can do if you want, you can peruse the little uh taste of the menu and see whether you think anything grabs your fancy. But as you're about to discover, all the colours are all jumbled up. They all just got and they help pretty well.
SPEAKER_01Good flavors and they are.
SPEAKER_00Well, well, you're welcome to try any one. The idea is we we try them out, we make our observations, and then the crucial thing we have to give it marks out of ten. Okay, and all of it aren't so much. Yeah, we're all just chipping that.
SPEAKER_01They have margarita cocktail in here. That's amazing.
SPEAKER_00Well, if you can find the right coloured one, you're welcome to do it. Feel free. Well, there's lots of different shades of all the different colours.
SPEAKER_01They've got um apple pie, lemon meringue pie. This is great, honestly.
SPEAKER_00Well, help yourself to whichever one you want to do. Oh my god. You might even need to form a rounded opinion. You might need to try several of them.
SPEAKER_01I'm down to do that, honest. I love sweet.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01Can I buy the margarita one? If you know what colour it is, you're welcome. It's green with like darks, but I think it's that one.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Yeah, okay. Now, before you pop it in, wait till we're all served and then we try them all simultaneously. Okay.
SPEAKER_04Okay, okay, I can do this.
SPEAKER_00So Ken want to try one as well. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER_04Even though you can't see Ken on camera, he's a big one. Here we go. Hello, Grand Review.
SPEAKER_00Oh yes, for the benefit of anyone who may not be aware, we are that this is Ken who owns the place, and we are in his shop at this moment, which is called the Mozart London Bar at 69 Annalee Road, London SE19. Um, you're always welcome to pop in, not only to buy one of my signed books, ha! But also to avail yourself of his vast array of drinks and beverages of all kinds. Uh right. There is gagging here. I love that. So uh I'll have one of these orange ones, although I haven't any idea what's that. Thank you, Sam, you can endorse it anytime. Right, I'll we all have a jelly big jelly bean. Right, I'm ready. Three, two, one, and in they go.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, it's right. I got my rate out. That is so bad. Oh, yeah, okay. It's just like the cocktail. Oh, that's it.
SPEAKER_00Oh that sounds like it might be getting a high score then. Yeah, that's 11 out of 10. Oh, you're going straight for it. Well, every time we've done one of one of these tests. None of us have ever gone up that high before. So you've just made taste test history.
SPEAKER_01I always have to take things before.
SPEAKER_00Well, it sounds to me like you ought to try another one.
SPEAKER_01I should dare, yeah.
SPEAKER_00This is the book in which all the scores are recorded. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, more greater, 11 out of 10. Amazing. Above the score.
SPEAKER_00Right. Well, while you're writing that, I will tell you that I had an orange one and it was very citrusy and orangey, which is also very good. So I'm going to give that a 9.5. Okay, that's a good one. And the only reason I've deducted that half mark off the top is because a bit of it's got stuck in mid tooth, and I can't get rid of it.
SPEAKER_01I've got like bonded veneers as well. So if anything gets stuck, I'm like I'm breaking.
SPEAKER_00Yes, um, I'm just doing some. I won't ask how you got them, but there you go. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, of course. Everything is very natural with the wrist. Yeah, well, well, I noticed. Everything, of course. It all came from another. Yeah, I want to find the toast in the bottom. It's like a cream with little brown speckles on it.
SPEAKER_03Okay, well, if you can see it, you've got a colour. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01Oh I'm struggling to find maybe. Maybe that one. Go on then.
SPEAKER_00Right. This looks just like um well, I'll try what what are the blue ones?
SPEAKER_01There's berry blue if it's like bright blue. Oh right. There's a dark blue that's blueberry. Oh, I'll try island punch. I bet that's a cocktail as well.
SPEAKER_00Right, well, I'll try a dark blue one for blueberry.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Yeah. Lovely. I got it right. I got marshmallow. These actually really are very good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01This is really garbage.
SPEAKER_00Who sent these in again? These are from Chris in Bournemouth. We love it, Chris.
SPEAKER_01We just can't tell you how grateful we are. They're very, very good. That's a nine out of ten. That's so good. So what's going to be your favourite margarita? She's the one arm. Yeah, I love that one.
SPEAKER_00Careful is it? Right. And while we're doing that, let's have a quick look. Um, Samantha says, Can you get Sam to say hi to me? He's the best. Hi, Samantha. Love you. Um, oh, uh, Kian says my favourite task was the fake fake eviction. There you go. That was a good, yeah. Was that task? It was trying, that's for sure. That was good, dumb. I got to hold on to all best, like really closely. I liked that part. And M says, Can you tell Sam? I said, him and Nancy is my fave duo ever. Oh my goodness. She better. Let's see. Um uh oh, and now I don't quite understand this one. Maybe you will. The other Sam, who I keep referring to, says, What does Sam think about oh, what does Sam think about Sam Jenner world domination?
SPEAKER_01I love it. Right. We have this gorgeous group of girls who call themselves Sam Jenner's because they make edits for me as Chris Jenner. Oh, yeah. And that's why, because we look very, very similar.
SPEAKER_02Is that what that is?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly. Chris Jenner or July Max, well, which is not as good, so we'll stick to Chris Jenner. Um they make so many amazing edits from the show, and we get the nice ones, but everyone else gets the bad ones. So I love the girls on a slow.
SPEAKER_00Um Scar says, tell Sam I saw him in Blank Street yesterday. Oh, I was there yesterday. Oh my god. I get a picture of somebody. Someone called Scar says he saw you, eh? I saw. Um and then Ross says, Why is this guy famous? Oh if you if you don't know, I mean, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Grandma now Ross. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00But obviously, we've made an impression, even though he doesn't know where we're from.
SPEAKER_01That's why I took from the whole shock. When I came off and asked what the reaction was, they said you've made an impact. That's all that matters. I was like, okay, sure, I'll take that. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I'll take it. Crystal says, Oh, tell Sam hello from Barnold's week. But also, oh, that's not far from me.
SPEAKER_01I'm Skipton, so. Oh, oh, hi, okay. Hi, Crystal.
SPEAKER_00Um, and then apologies to anyone who's sending questions because we're kind of talking about all sorts of things and it scores up the screen very fast. We're trying to fit in as many as we can. Um, here's an interesting one. Uh kind of a psychological question. Lizzie says, Did you get less addicted to your phone from not having it?
SPEAKER_01I I really liked having the phone in the house. I really liked that like freedom. Because I've lived my whole life like with doing social media and doing music and posting every day and doing so much like on my phone. So to not have that pressure was great. Getting it back, I didn't want to open it. Like I was so nervous getting it back. I left it on like uncharged and dead the whole first night because I didn't want to see it. The next morning, once I saw what was happening, I was then addicted again, like a different way. But I think I've got a healthy thing now to means from not having it as much. So what do you think, Rachel?
SPEAKER_00Well, it is quite liberating not having it. It's great, isn't it? And in fact, it reminds me, see now, this is going back before your time now, young man. Yeah, it's I now. Um I remember the time when I was told by my parents, you're watching too much TV. Yeah, I got that as well. Now this was before mobile phones were even a thing. Yeah. So so if if you had an addiction, so to speak, it was a telly. Yeah. You're watching too much TV, get out and play in the street, you know, with all the other snipes. And um and the thing was, once you actually got out there and started, you know, roughing and tumbling and doing whatever, um you kind of got into it and you didn't miss the TV, even though at the time that you're told you can't watch it, it seemed like a big punishment. Yeah. And so, yeah, we do get so kind of attached to our phones and our gadgets that we kind of think can't live without it.
SPEAKER_01But when we find that we have to live without them, it's quite quite easy to live. Yeah, it is. It's nice, it's a good feeling. Especially nowadays everything is slow wrapped up on your phone, it's nice to not have that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, go back to your uh back to what you just said there, Richard though. Yes. When you got told that you couldn't go out because you were naughty and then you heard your friends, then you wanted to go out, and you can see you can see from the window, you know, that your friends were playing outside. She was just sitting at the window like this.
SPEAKER_01So sad. My thing was if I was naughty, I couldn't wear my dressing up outfits. That was my punishment. So I always had like all the characters, all the princesses, all the characters. And if I was naughty, I couldn't wear my outfits.
SPEAKER_00See, now I'm very tempted to ask you what you did that was so naughty. But you don't need to tell us. Yeah, we don't, I don't know. I don't know, I'm probably just talking in crowd or something. I don't know. Now, here's an interesting one from House of Bob. Hello, House of Bob. Are you still in contact with Marcus and Elsa? Now, this is an interesting one because on my TikTok live last night, somebody said, Um, and I don't know whether it's true, you see, this is the thing. Maybe you'll be able to uh shed some light on this. Someone said, What do you think about um Marcus and Elsa separating?
SPEAKER_01Well, this is like a room at the moment.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so have they or haven't they? I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I don't know if it's all together or not. I have a feeling it could be just for TikTok, just like getting people talking about them. Right. Um, because they were saying they'd lost followers since the show and they haven't been posting very much. So I could see them attacked it just to get everyone talking about them again. I don't know. Um, but they could be on the rocks, who knows? Which is a shame because they're a nice little phone.
SPEAKER_00Well, in the house itself, I mean it kind of came and went, didn't it? So it could be like and it finished, it finished on high. They were they were obviously uh to say, weren't we?
SPEAKER_01By the way, what's your score for the jelly the jelly bean? The margarita was 11 out of 10, and the marshmallow was nine out of ten. So what's your total out of ten? Oh, yeah. For which one, marshmallow? The whole thing. Oh, I think ten out of ten for the whole thing. That even's out eleven, nine, go for ten in the middle. I love it. I love the little menu as well. This is a really bougie packaging, actually.
SPEAKER_00This is like a really nice, yeah. There you go, Chris from Bournemouth. You see, it's you've scored a hit there. Very bougie. I was on nine point five for the orange one, and I think I was on nine point five also for the blueberry one that I had after that. Okay, so nice. Yeah, it's only because it got stuck in my tooth.
SPEAKER_01That wouldn't give me a lot of maths in this in this thing. Educational. It is educational.
SPEAKER_03I could do it, um I would give them both nine because they were absolutely mouth watching.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And you just feel that sense just hits you.
SPEAKER_01It's like me, if I was a jelly fan.
SPEAKER_03There you go. Let's make a package for you then.
SPEAKER_01I love that, all very vesti flavour.
SPEAKER_03Right, sir. You're not leaving this place.
SPEAKER_00No, absolutely. Yeah, there you go. Now here's a little bit of breaking news for you. Two people have replied independently to said, I saw Elsa on TikTok recently to say they have not broken up.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00So there you go. Well, I hope they I hope they're doing well. I really do. Yeah. But apparently um Farmer Cam is here. Cameron, are you there? Um, why don't you send us a request to join or something if you want to, Cameron? Yes. Anyway, Melanie is here and and and um and affecta and Becky B. Oh hello Becky B. Nice. There are. Oh, and Lolly says, Smash B miss you, Queen. Oh, I love that. Yeah, so so we're we're doing we're doing all right, aren't we? Really? Very positive.
SPEAKER_01Comment section from there.
SPEAKER_00I was asked recently, you know, how did you cope with all the cooking? And the truth is I didn't cook. I didn't cope.
SPEAKER_01I didn't do it.
SPEAKER_00Did you cook anything in there?
SPEAKER_01I made pancakes one day. Right. I don't remember who with. I think there was like a breakfast moment that was happening. I made pancakes, and then I helped Nancy once with a fish moment. It was like a salmon dinner thing. Right. So I helped her a lot help fish her a couple of times, helped Nancy a couple of times. I was learning as opposed to chefing it up, you know. No. I like I think I can. I'm gonna put my mind to it. Well, but I think I can do a lot of things. There it is. I don't do it a lot because it's just like me. So I feel like what's the point in cooking for me? Do you know what I mean? Like, I just like make like frozen stuff. So but I can make mac and cheese from scratch and I can still do it. I do it the other day, so I can do that. My skill set is limited, but I'm open to try. Maybe Master Chef won't be on the card soon. Who knows? Maybe bake off though. I could probably bake quite good. Oh, you can bake. I think so, I don't know. I've got about seven, so I don't know. Maybe I still can try it out.
SPEAKER_00But I got through the entire seven weeks without cooking a single thing.
SPEAKER_01That is an impression.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I I I I I poured my own cereal out in the morning and yeah, but I made iced coffee for everybody. Do you remember that? I was, I was. Well, and do you remember also when you um came back into the house with um Emily and uh Farida? Yeah, um, and Farida particularly were saying, Oh, everyone needs to help with the cooking, and da da da. And and I remember thinking, well, actually, it's kind of found a natural rhythm already. Uh Tate, Fayshola, and and and Zila were doing a lot of the cooking, yeah and not under any sort of duress. They were very happy to do it. They kind of chose that they were good at it. And I said to the big brother in the diary room, I said, you know, they're happy to do it, and it's very delicious, they're good at it. And I'm more than happy to do the washing up, put the stuff away, dry it.
SPEAKER_01I think because we got so comfortable and found a rhythm that worked, I think they wanted to see us change up and get different people to do it, see if they cause any roses, you know, of intention.
SPEAKER_00Because a show like that, it sort of does depend on edge and headbutting.
SPEAKER_01I know. Yeah. And I thought we were quite chilled out, but apparently not. I like watching it back because I didn't think it was really funny. And all my bits are quite controversial, but they're really funny. It is good funny. No, I don't mind it. It's late in live that I find hell to watch. I can't watch that one.
SPEAKER_00Well, well, yeah, I when I was watching this, I started off by watching episode one, late in live one, and doing like after a while, I kind of got a bit fed up with the latent lives, and I just went to the episodes. Yeah. And then, like a fool, I went back and watched the latent lives all in a row. And then talking about stuff, and I couldn't remember what I think.
SPEAKER_01You could remember it.
SPEAKER_00But that's how I did it anyway.
SPEAKER_01I liked it until I saw certain people had a lot to say about me, and I was like, okay, whatever. So that's what I turned on.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, well, Becky B says, Sam, you were so entertaining on this video. Thank you, Becky. There you go. I agree, I thought it was hilarious. Now, this this question has come several times, so I better ask it. Uh, and I don't understand it though. So I hope you can understand this. She says, Does Sam have any thoughts on Lily seeing Shane's face in her toasty? What does that mean?
SPEAKER_01So, Lily Father, Sam Denner um group. Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Shane is Jenny's bestie. I don't know the toasty law, but I know they edit Shane with a massive forehead at the moment on TikTok, which I love. So that's really funny. I don't know about the toasty lore. Why is he in a toasty? I don't know. I don't know what he needs to do. I need to see this meme, Lily. I need to catch up.
SPEAKER_00Right, okay. Oh well, there we are. And Dan D says, Are we going for Christmas number one again?
SPEAKER_01Maybe second time. We'll try it. I got number two with code, so maybe I could try to get number one this year if I re-release it. Like an acoustic version, maybe I don't know, or remix. I could do that.
SPEAKER_04But you know who's always on more than Christmas.
SPEAKER_01More care. Always. But you know, we're not that far apart me and her, so I think I could get it. I could try. No, doesn't matter. I could just I'll lip sync it.
SPEAKER_03So what's your voice level?
SPEAKER_01Level?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, in terms of tune, sound, tone, tenor, surprise.
SPEAKER_01You know, I actually don't know what my like what it'd be classed as. I've got a really unique voice. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you you you're I I would say a high tenor, probably.
SPEAKER_01Do you think?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I don't think mine's very high. Well, we are certainly not down at the bass.
SPEAKER_01No, I'm not down at the base. I think it's because it's so twangy that it sounds high. Uh my voice is very nasal, and I've been trying to work on getting that out a lot.
SPEAKER_00But you're right, but in your in your um upbeat songs, the one that you were singing in the house, um, it it's the right tone for that if you very well. It does fit it. And then when you sang the more kind of gentle, reflective type stuff, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I've got a different tone. I think I want to sing some balader, it just came from a different place, and I can net with it differently. When there's something poppy, it's more like the performance of the song feels different, you know. Yeah, of course it does. So I don't know. I I don't know how I cuss my voice as.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you can always give us a bash now. We can always bring it up.
SPEAKER_01We'll say, yeah. Let's have a little infunctary moment. No stress.
SPEAKER_00Okay. I love it. Uh oh, and you've got a hello from Lolly who says it's Laura from Zumba, not been for a while.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I miss the Zumba day. So there you go. I don't know, I do miss it. Honestly, I've done it for a long time. Even before the house, it wasn't my actual job, which is really weird they put it in as my job. Because my job was like none. I never had no money as a zombie instructor. Like it was more just for like the fitness I did it for as like a side hustle. But my job was like performing everywhere, because that's what I made some money from. But um, yeah, the zombie was so weird they put that in there, but they did the same with Nancy because she was modelling as a job, but did uni, so they wanted more like a everyday approach to it, like uni, zomba. It's more approachable than like performing and doing modelling and stuff, you know. So I don't know, I'd love to do it again, though I do miss it.
SPEAKER_00Well, uh you're quite right because Equalizer says I think Sam could smash Eurovision. That's the plan.
SPEAKER_04You know, I was thinking that earlier, actually. That is the plan. You would be great at that.
SPEAKER_01That is my biggest dream. My big brother was up there. Eurovision's even higher. Um thank you. I so I'm doing the London Eurovision ball in April, so I'm co-hosting and performing at that in Scala in London. So that feels like things like that are coming up, which I would never have before the house. So I feel like it has helped me a little bit in my like past Eurovision, so I'm quite excited.
SPEAKER_00And I've got to tell you, Henry is here, Henry Southern from I love Henry. And he says, Happy Thursday, Richard and Sam. Well, Henry, thanks for being here.
SPEAKER_01I've been having the video awards last week.
SPEAKER_00All right, well, there you go. Oh, and um this is one for you as well. No one's asking me any questions. What's going on?
SPEAKER_01This is Richard's podcast.
SPEAKER_00Oh, and I the question disappeared up the screen. Oh, here it is from Becky B who says, 'Sam, did you enjoy it when you went to the fake house for your fake eviction?' That's when you were in the secret room.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I did. I was kind of buzzing because I was like, it's my second chance. I'm going to go back in there. Like, and I thought, because like you don't know what's got what's been shown in the show, but I knew that would be shown. So I was like, okay, I've got something happening in the show to be a part of it. So I felt like I'd uh my stride was spent there, and I was quite happy. So I was excited to get back in there and call some chaos.
SPEAKER_00Right now then, listen, folks, we've been going for just about an hour, so we really ought to start thinking about drawing to a terms. Well, I feel like we could keep on. I know this is um, what to keep talking after? But um, thank you so much for giving the time. Thanks for having me, Rich, and I've loved it. It's wonderful to sort of reminisce about all the things because it brings back things to my mind that I'd forgotten. I know when you talk to different people, it remember different things. Yes, yes. Yeah. Um, thanks for taking part in the taste test. Of course. Um, please do uh subscribe to the podcast if you haven't done already. It's called A Jolly Good Natter over Coffee and Biscuits. Thanks to Ken and the Mozart London Bar, where all of your beverage requests are catered for in great measure. Um, great to have you. Thanks to all the loyal TikTok followers who keep uh coming to these lives for all your questions. Couldn't do the show without you. Thanks to Mark for co-presenting. Thanks again to Sam for coming. Wish you all the best with your ongoing singing career. And uh, and when you're in the area, let's do another one of those.
SPEAKER_01100%, let's do it.
SPEAKER_00I love that. Okay, then folks, thanks ever so much. We're signing off now, but see you again soon.
SPEAKER_04And just before we go, oh you're such in a haste.
SPEAKER_00I I was just in the closing thing. But you're right, he's right, he's right, we've missed our closing line. Go on, then say it.
SPEAKER_04Be nice to each other.
SPEAKER_00Be nice to each other and and our final line is always don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened. Yeah. That's nice. All right, so you know the folks okay. That was fun. There we are, and I just have to now.
