The Great British Heatwave & Debt Collector Drama

Grab your strawberry milkshakes and join Richard Story and Mark Cameron for another lively, laughter-filled podcast episode live from the beautiful surroundings of Crystal Palace Park!

In today’s packed episode:

• The Infamous Riddle: Richard revisits that mind-bending puzzle from the last episode. Did anyone actually manage to figure it out? The answer is finally revealed, and a brand-new, equally baffling teaser is set for next time!

• A Global Record? Richard reacts to some mind-blowing news from his loyal TikTok followers regarding his historic Big Brother win.

• The UK Heatwave vs. School Snow Days: The guys discuss the recent scorching weather, early school closures, and look back at their contrasting childhood memories of epic winter snowball fights.

• Fan Shoutouts & Special Guests: A warm thank you to our regular listeners, Aditja and John, plus an exciting update on an upcoming "taste test" episode featuring Chris of the T-shirt!

• Real Life Dramas: From Mark's seamless new cooker delivery (with zero broken toilets this time!) to Richard's stressful showdown with a mistaken BT debt collection letter, the duo cover the highs and lows of the past week.

Don't forget to vote for Richard in Category 10 at nationalrealitytvawards.co.uk/voting if you haven't already!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Oh, thank you. I thought I was gonna have to do this all more on my own. But glad you could join us. Yes, hello, hello ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the latest scintillating episode of A Jolly Good Natter over Coffee and Biscuits. Now you may remember if you're a regular of these TikTok lives, this isn't a TikTok live, told you, this is a podcast, a jolly good natter over coffee and biscuits. And if you're a regular, you will remember that last time we did one of these, we came to the beautiful environs of Crystal Palace Park, and we had such a wonderful time, didn't we?

SPEAKER_01 0:28

We did.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

We did, that we thought we'd come back again. So here we are, and this this I think could become one of our regular little haunts. And today we're even hydrating ourselves with some delicious strawberry milkshakes.

SPEAKER_01 0:39

They are lovely.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

They are, they are, they are. Now, in case you're not aware, my name is Richard Story, and I am joined as ever by my erstwhile friend and companion, the one who never forgets his name. Maybe today will be the day we're about to find out. Go on, tell them what your name is.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

Just need to find a friend to find out.

SPEAKER_00 0:55

Oh yes, yes. Or 50-50. You could do 50-50.

SPEAKER_01 0:59

Mark Cameron.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

Just for a moment you thought he was going to forget, didn't you? Yes. Anyway, yes, you're very welcome. And we have a packed programme for you today. We do. We do, don't we?

SPEAKER_01 1:11

We certainly do.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

So should I tell the viewers what we've got coming up? A little a little list of all the things. And then we just hope we don't forget any of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

You can do if you yeah, you can if you want to, but uh it could be quite interesting to see. If we remember them all. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

Alright, well, let's see whether we can. So, last uh episode, we set you a podcast poser. Do you remember that? So I'll remind you what it is now, and then we'll tell you the answer in a little while. How about that?

SPEAKER_01 1:34

That'd be fantastic, yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

Okay, do you remember what the podcast poser was, Mr. Cameron?

SPEAKER_01 1:38

I do not.

SPEAKER_00 1:39

So you haven't probably haven't got an answer either, then, have you? No. You see what I have to work with? You see what I have to work with? Right. Here comes the podcast poser from the previous episode. There is a man pushing his car. Pushing, Mark you, not driving, all right? There is a man pushing his car towards a hotel. Now, where are you going?

SPEAKER_01 2:07

Okay. There is I know the chair, the chair just moved back.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

I'm just a bit more. I'm trying to give the viewer the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

But the chair is a bit rocky, you see, so I don't you know.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

Well, it's because you you put too much weight on, that's why. This thing's gonna collapse at any moment.

SPEAKER_01 2:21

All right, well, yeah, carry on, carry on.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

May I?

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Yes, please, yeah. That'd be fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

Right, I'll have to start again now. Yeah, you can't.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Do you even remember? This is all the tests, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 2:29

Well, I'm sure I'll pass with flying colours one of these days if I get the chance. Right. I worry about you, I do, honestly. Constantly. I do, I worry about you. Right. I'll start again now, shall I?

SPEAKER_01 2:41

Please, yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

There is a man, actually, it could be a woman. Yeah. But you know, let's not worry about that now. It's irrelevant in this particular case. Well, it might be relevant to him or her, whatever. Yeah, stop making problems. Right, there is a person who is pushing their car towards a hotel. With me so far?

SPEAKER_02 3:03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

And just as they get there, they become aware that they are about to go bankrupt. How is this possible? Can you explain this extraordinary set of circumstances? There's a man pushing his car towards a hotel, and just as he gets there, he realizes he's about to go bankrupt. And the answer, Mr. Cameron, is go on, tell us.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

I haven't got the fog guest.

SPEAKER_00 3:31

What am I gonna do with him? What am I gonna do with him? Alright, well, do not worry, dear listener. We will tell you the answer in a little while. And at which point, having revealed the answer, we'll set you a new podcast poser to tell you the answer next time. How cool is that?

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. That that that is correct. So, yeah, the the new podcast poser will be later on in the episode once Richard reveals the answer to the current one.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Yes, if you ever give me a chance to reveal it with all these interruptions.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Oh yes. Right, just want to just before we do get into the main pods, just want to say hi to Adija. Is it Adija? Aditya. Aditya.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

Oh yes, Adija, one of my most loyal TikTok followers.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

Yes, yes. Yes, thank you for commenting on our recent podcast. And I'm glad that you enjoyed the Arsenal Parade when they won the Premier League a few weeks ago now.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Is that a football team? They all know I don't follow the football.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

This is this is this is what I have to deal with so often. It's it's it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. And hi to John. I'm guessing you may be maybe a Tottenham fan or Man United, because you went boo in the comments, so it's it's all it's all laughs though, it's all laughs. So I'm glad to that you're uh watching our pod and enjoying every single episode, which is great as well. I think that is it. Yeah, oh oh, and obviously Chris. Oh, your loyal followers.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

Yes, Chris of the T-shirt.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 4:55

Did you ever see you see that I show you the photo of the t-shirt that he made? I'm sure he'll bring it with him because he's coming to be a guest on our podcast very soon.

SPEAKER_01 5:03

Yes, he's gonna be our first listener guest. Well, yes, yes, TikTok follower, yes.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

And he's bring and he, Chris of the t-shirt, I'm hoping he's gonna bring a t-shirt because it's worth seeing if you haven't seen it already. Um, he actually made the t-shirt before the result of Big Brother was known. He he would kind of got the thing with my photo on and it said Richard for the win. So not Richard has won or I hope Richard would Richard for the win.

SPEAKER_02 5:29

That's fantastic, yeah, yeah, that's brilliant.

SPEAKER_00 5:31

Um so yes, and Chris is going to provide, he tells me, is going to provide the um food and drink for the taste test in the next episode. How cool is that?

SPEAKER_01 5:42

That it's brilliant, yes.

SPEAKER_00 5:43

So look out for that. Don't miss it, don't miss it. That's the next one.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Well, it's gonna be there's gonna be two, it's gonna be there's gonna be two episodes. There are, yes. So there's gonna be the normal pod, and there's gonna be a special pod thereafter, which is gonna be a case test episode only. So I hope everybody's gonna look forward to that one because it will be very excited.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

Anyway, yes, it will be excited.

SPEAKER_01 6:13

It will be.

SPEAKER_00 6:13

Just make sure you don't have anything to eat before you come, because there's plenty of things to be nibbling away at.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

And I I did a I did make a fatal mistake last time. We when we went to the cafe, not the one Monacross Palace eated. Oh, Alistair's. Yes. Remember, I ate a little bit of breakfast beforehand, so I was a bit full.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

That's true, yes.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

I was a bit full.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

But we're looking forward to coming back to Alistair's because it's a nice place, and they do have generous portions of things.

SPEAKER_01 6:37

They do, they do.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

We like that.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

So, how have you been?

SPEAKER_00 6:43

Well, I've been alright. Thank you for asking, and it's been quite a roller coaster week.

SPEAKER_01 6:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:47

Um, because uh following on from the Big Brother win, I mean, some of the people watching this will be aware, but some may not be, that having won the Big Brother show, which completely and still surprises me even now, I still can't believe it. But subsequent to that, some kind soul, and if you're watching, thank you, I don't know who you are, someone nominated me for a reality TV award. I didn't know anything about this. The first I knew about this was when on one of my TikTok lives, someone happened to say, Oh, Richard, I voted for you today. And I said, Oh, really? What did you vote for me about? And that's when I found out that this thing was going on. So I went and uh looked at the website myself and thought, good gracious, there's my little name in the list of nominees. So ever since then I've been going around trying to persuade people to vote. So, ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't yet voted, and provided you're watching this with the voting still open, because there isn't very long to go now, um, could I persuade you to vote for me? It's easy peasy. All you have to do is go to the website and put a little dot in the circle next to my name and click submit, and that's it. All right, so the address you need to go to, and we'll put this in the caption just put down below your screen there. Just thought of that, that's clever. I'm surprised I thought of that.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

I am I was just thinking, is he gonna mention that? I am so shocked.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

You've got to give the show an extra thumbs up because Richard actually understood the assignment today.

SPEAKER_00 8:08

So well, I do try. Yes. Yes. I could try harder, I suppose. Yes. I I could do better. I try my best. Anyway, meanwhile, the address you need, and this is quite wordy, so I will tell it to you twice because I'm good like that. Okay. It's all one word, and it is National Reality TV Awards.co.uk forward slash voting. I'll say it again.

unknown 8:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

Because I just was so impressed with the way I said it that first time enunciated beautifully.

SPEAKER_01 8:37

Fantastic. You're very kind.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

Um you've taught me well. You're welcome. Anytime. National Reality TV Awards.co.uk forward slash voting. And when you get into the site, there's lots of different categories. Scroll down the screen and you'll find my name in category 10. So if you've already voted, and I know many of you have, thank you, thank you, thank you. And if you haven't, I thank you in advance for your vote. One thing that's happened to me this week, and I've got more to tell you, but before I go on, do you have anything new? Uh, you know, any any earth-chattering stuff that's been happening in your life?

SPEAKER_01 9:10

Yes, so I did I tell you got my new cooker delivered not too long ago. And what's her name?

SPEAKER_00 9:20

You got no sense of humour. No sense of humour.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Anyway. And they were from Curries, but you mentioned to me that you had a delivery from Curries not too long ago. I did. Where the delivery driver broke his toilet, and that was one of the episodes broken toilets.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

Before you ask, how is it possible to break a toilet while installing a cook-up? Well, go back to the previous episode and you'll find out.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

Yes, yes. So they didn't use the toilet.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

Thank goodness for that.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

They were both very, very friendly.

SPEAKER_00 9:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

Had a good conversation with both of them. And they walked out, cleaned up after themselves with all they with regards to the packaging. And their broken toilets. So that was fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 10:09

Very, very good.

SPEAKER_01 10:10

And what else have I been doing?

SPEAKER_00 10:14

I mean, have you gone on any TV shows?

SPEAKER_01 10:17

Not yet. I I know that a lot of listeners want me to go on TV.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Yeah, they do actually. They keep asking me, Are you gonna go on Big Brother? And I I tell them, and that you'll you will bear this out. That I have tried to persuade you to apply. Applications are still open. That's what I should mention.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

Yeah. Not yet.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

No.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Oh, yes, yeah. Last week were there was a heat wave in the UK, so I had to pick up my youngest from school because the school was closing early.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

Oh, really? Gosh.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

So it was a lot of listeners may think 36, 30. Well, yeah, well no, we went up to 38, didn't it? 38 degrees. It's pretty hot, yeah. But the the thing with the UK, it's not the actual temperature what's the problem, it's the humidity what makes it even more unbearable. So, so we we we had quite a lot of fun. Uh went to swimming pool and things like that, and also went to the London aquarium as well.

SPEAKER_00 11:17

Sea life, which was really so you wanted stuff with a water theme to kind of cool you down.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Yes. Yes. So I really enjoyed that. Took my mum there as well. She loved it.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

Did you bring her back?

SPEAKER_01 11:28

Oh yes, I did. Don't worry, don't worry, everybody. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 11:36

See, I have to check these things, but you just never know.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

I know I forget my name very often.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

What was it? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Yeah, it was really enjoyable.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

See, when I was at school, which is quite a long time ago now.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

Do you even remember?

SPEAKER_00 11:51

I do remember it. Just about. I do, I do. Well, you know, that happened with old people. They remember things that I am 50 years ago, but they can't remember what I am yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 11:58

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

Anyway. And and I'm sure I'll discover that when I get old. Now, the thing is that when I was at school, it was just an absurd idea that you will be sent home from school because of the heat. I was sent home from school a couple of times when the school closed because of the snow. That happened, but never because of the heat.

SPEAKER_01 12:16

Yes. Um I I did enjoy those snow days back.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

It was kind of special, wasn't it? To be at home on a day when you wouldn't normally be.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

Or when you did go into school when there was lots of snow. I I don't know about you, but we built a a massive snow wall. Oh yeah. So it was one, you know, you had in in each year you had different house houses. Yes, yes. So I was Tunstall House, and you had bench, I think it was bench, I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

But uh I thought you'd have been in Slytherin.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

Yeah, I can tell by that evil laugh, it gives you a I know, I know.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

He got it, he got it. Anyway, so we bought a built a massive snowball. So all the boys from my house versus the other house, and it was just a massive snowball fight for the whole of lunchtime. It was fantastic, it was one of the best experiences I can remember of the side. Did you win? I think we both won in the end, to be honest. That was a draw. Yes, it was it was it was brilliant. And the snow was much more heavier about them as well.

SPEAKER_00 13:24

Well, also you wouldn't be allowed to build a snow wall now because you'd have to get planning permission first.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

And also health and safety get gets involved as well with a lot of this stuff.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

Well, when the snow came, I remember at school the first day that the snow came, when everyone was throwing snow around and snowballs and everything, that was fine. But the second day, if it hadn't all melted, usually by the second day, most of it had gone. But if it hadn't, it had all become like ice and nuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the headmaster would stand up and say, Right, okay, you all had fun yesterday throwing snow at each other, but not today.

SPEAKER_01 13:51

Not today, yes. Um do you have any crazy or chaotic score stories from your school days? Because I've just told you about my snow day, but do you have anything which is quite memorable? If you remember, because as you rightly said, 50 years ago is a very long time for someone of your age.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

Well, I mean 50 years ago is before I was born. So how can I remember back then?

SPEAKER_01 14:15

You do realise on national TV it did mention your real age.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Oh, did it? Uh right, okay. That's a bit of a drawback, then isn't it? Yeah, yes, yes. Yeah, I'll tell you, that reminds me, one of the things I discovered this week, and it's my loyal TikTok followers who informed me of this. But I knew that I was the oldest person ever to win Big Brother.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

Not the fact that they said it on TV.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

Well, they said it then as well. Yeah. That that that's the first I knew of it. Yes, but but but my TikTokers informed me this week that not only am I the oldest person ever to win it, I'm the oldest person ever to win it in the entire world of Big Brother, every series they've ever had anywhere.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Ooh, that's that's a fascinating.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

Except for the there's apparently there's a celebrity in one of the celebrity editions, someone won it who was older, but I don't know who that was. But in all the civilian ones, you know, just regular people, um dogs barking. Um yes, so out of all the civilian ones, I I am the oldest, not only in the UK, but uh across the whole world. So isn't that extraordinary?

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

Now, while we're on the subject, you've reminded me now.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

Are you going to tell the story before you s before you switch? Which story? Anything fascinating from your school days before you flip onto that? Or answer your question?

SPEAKER_00 15:24

Well, there wasn't anything that particularly stood out because I was just so brilliant at everything. Except except for woodwork. I was rubbish at that.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

Oh god.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

I was atrocious at French, and I was even worse at rugby. In fact, I think I may have mentioned, I might have told you this story before in a previous episode. Stop me if I if I have. Uh or you if you'd enjoy the story, you can just let me do it again. Where we were all out there on the rugby field, and it was freezing cold, and it was the it wasn't even a field anymore, it was all mud and slush and awfulness. And uh can you imagine? There's these pounding feet, and you're supposed to throw yourself face first into these you know pounding heels and make in all this mud and everything. And as you can imagine, I wasn't particularly keen on this, but we were all told to do it. So I, you know, made my gave it my best shot, and it didn't work very well at all. And the uh sports teacher shouted very loudly, and everyone heard it. He said, You are the worst rugby player out of the entire school, even including the girls.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

You see? So that's why my sporting career never really took off.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

That is pretty embarrassing. It well actually for a young man to be told that in front of the it stunted my emotional growth. It did.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

I tell you what, I bet these days they wouldn't be allowed to come out with a comment like that. It would probably be considered psychological abuse or something. Yeah, he'd probably get sacked now.

unknown 16:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

And then everyone just laughed.

SPEAKER_01 16:42

I did have this one PE teacher, I've gotten his name now, but he was very funny. He said, Come on, son. He said, come on, you can do better, son. Ah, it was he was such a it was hard. It was very hard in the way he his approach in relation to getting you to do PE. Yes. But it was good because it it got the best out of you. I know you you you'd be you still you probably would still be the same timid way. But uh yeah, he Mr. uh was it Mr. Sharp? I forgot. Mr. Motivator. Oh, yeah, I saw him on GMTV the other day. Yeah, oh he's still around, isn't he? He is, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's still doing well for himself. If you don't know, he in the was it the 90s? Yeah, he was a uh personal instructor, used to come on morning TV.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

Yeah, he was quite a celebrity, wasn't he, really? He was. He probably still is, I suppose.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

Well, yes, he and he used to do about five to ten minutes of fitness in the morning to get you ready for your work day or your school day and whatnot. So and he was very popular, he went on many TV shows. If you just Google Mr. Motivator or going to YouTube, you're out to see him, just to let you know. Obviously, after watching this.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Well, yes. Yes, yes, it's important to get your priorities right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In the last few days, I have been recognised twice in the street. Once by a girl who said, Young Big Brother, I I I've got a WhatsApp group called Big Brother Babes, and we love Big Brother, and we love you, and I've got to have a selfie with you, because otherwise they'll never believe I've met you. And I said, Well, I'll give you a selfie if you vote for me. And she said, Yes, I will, I will, I will. So that was that. And then the next day, walking along the street, and it's like a someone who looked like a schoolboy coming the other way, and we we passed each other, and three seconds later he called back, he goes, Big Brother, I saw you one, big brother. My mum loves you. I've got to have a selfie. So I said, I'll give you a selfie if you vote for me. And he said, Yes, I will, I will. So there you go. So it's all been quite exciting, really. Nice. You can see how enamoured he is. Well, I'm excited. Yes. Anyway, there was one, just one slightly negative thing that happened this week for me. Would you like me to tell you what that was? Go ahead. The negative thing was that right out of the blue, I received a letter from a debt collection agency. Oh, sorry, am I boring you?

SPEAKER_01 19:02

I'm looking at qu questions.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

Oh right.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

Because someone has to prep for this podcast.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

Uh oh, all right, okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

We're supposed to prepare. Well, anyway, I received a letter. I did. Now that's an that's an unusual in itself these days, isn't it? I remember the days when I would look forward to the postman arriving. No, he never hardly ever comes, and when he does, it's just junk mail and bills and rubbish stuff that you don't want to read. Anyway, I especially didn't want this one. A letter came from a debt collection agency. Now, before you all start worrying, I do pay all my bills, alright? I'm not scrounging off the state or anything like that. No, I'm really not honest. Anyway, a letter from a debt collecting agency telling me that I owed BT 700 quid, which was completely wrong. So I had to spend a long time on the phone getting all that sorted out. It was all sorted out eventually. But if you've ever had to do anything like that yourself, you know it's not just a five-minute job. You're on there for ages and you're put on hold and then you're transferred to someone else, etc. etc. And having to explain yet again the whole situation to somebody else who doesn't know what you're talking about. It took absolutely ages, but in the end, in the end, I'll tell you what, here's a shout out. I finally got through to a very helpful fellow, his name was Gordon. Gordon in Ireland, if you are watching, God bless you, and I'll take you for a pint if you're ever this side of the water. Gordon was the man. He managed to sort it out. And uh basically I was the victim of identity theft. And um when I explained all this to him, he said, I can't stand fraud. You've found the right guy to help you out, we're gonna get to the bottom of this. And he did. It took well over an hour, uh this conversation going on and on and on, but we finally got it sorted. I was then able to phone the debt collecting people and say to them, This is what happened, and they went, Ah, now we see, all right then. And so it's all sorted. And they go and they all lived happily ever after.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

So was this for you said it's from BT, so was it was it for your mobile, was it for your internet? What was it for?

SPEAKER_00 21:03

Um, it concerned an account which didn't exist. Um, I do have a landline with BT.

SPEAKER_01 21:09

Well, what service was it for? That's what I'm trying to establish.

SPEAKER_00 21:11

It was it was for, according to the letter, it was uh uh in respect of an alleged business account, which I don't have.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

A business account? Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Yeah, so there we are. So anyway, if you ever do find yourself with a letter for a bill that you know you didn't didn't incur, um it is possible to get it sorted, but yeah, make sure don't just call when you've got five minutes to go before leaving the house. Make sure you've got a lot of time set aside because it's gonna take a while. But it will get sorted if you be patient and persevere.

SPEAKER_01 21:43

Yeah, I I had a similar situation with 3 mobile a couple of years ago where I was it's where I was living in Epsom and someone was using my name. And my previous address to set up a mobile account.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

Did I spell it right?

SPEAKER_01 22:06

You did.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

That's alright then.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

And they tried to get a mobile phone on contract by using my details. The good thing is about free, they did call me and say, Mr. Cameron, did you set up an account for a mobile phone to purchase or a contract for 24 months? I said no. Because I already had a contract. Right. And they they what flagged them is why would I have two mobile phones?

SPEAKER_00 22:41

So sometimes they're on the ball. Well sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

Yes. So they did set up an extra verification method for me. The fact that someone probably went through my old letters and whatnot is very disheartening at the time.

SPEAKER_00 23:00

Yes. It does. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

The good thing is it got it all got sorted out in the end, which was nice.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

The thing I don't like about it is it's sort of the onus is on you who is the victim in the case. The onus is on you to sort it out. You can't just phone up on someone and say there's a problem here and then go, oh right, we'll get right on it. You're the one who has to do all the running around and sorting out. And when I phoned those debt collecting people in the first instance, they said, Well, have you got a crime number? Well, no, of course not. Well, well, we have no evidence that this isn't a right. Well, of course, I've got no evidence. I didn't set the thing up. Oh, well, no, we need this, we need that, we need the other. And it did leave me feeling quite, you know, how am I going to sort this out? But fortunately, in the end, it was alright.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

Okay. I was wondering why Gordon didn't contact the debt collectors, because that is part of their job, not your job.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

That's my this is the irony. Right, well, if you want to know, after Gordon had sorted all this out, he was then able to give me a he called it a complaint number. And when I phoned the debt collecting people and said he's given me this complaint number, they were then able to say, ah, right, that tells us that it is all right at their end, we can now take this forward and resolve it all.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

But you're still paying for your the the thing is you're still paying BT for a service that you have. So if anything has happened to you, which is not your fault, once you initiate the contact with them and say there's been an issue, they should be taking that initiative themselves as a company. Yeah. Because they uh they earn billions.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

Take in their time and send that off to them and say, Don't worry, Mr. Store, we'll get that sorted out for you. I don't think that's actually that that step, I don't think is actually that good. You're right. Most of the companies that, well, all the companies I've dealt with have actually done that part for me.

SPEAKER_00 24:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

So that is very lacking from BT.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

You're right, because that is very um some I think it was computer generated, but nevertheless, BT will have contacted the debt collecting people and say, you need to collect this money from him. They will they will have done that. So now they should say, they send another message, say, cancel that, we don't need it anymore, it's all just mistakes, you see. But no, no, I still had to go and do it. And I did it. And uh and it's all right in there. Anyway, this is all getting a bit serious, isn't it? Shall we shall we lighten the mood a little?

SPEAKER_01 25:21

How do you propose that?

SPEAKER_00 25:23

How do you propose? Will you get down on one knee and say, Will you marry me? I'm not suggesting that you do that right now. Good gracious, I worry about you, you know. I do.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

Right. You said about lightening the the mood, so I'm I'm waiting.

SPEAKER_00 25:37

Yes. Well, should I um reveal the uh the podcast poser? The answer to the poser from earlier on.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

Shall I? Would you like okay? Just to remind you, the podcast poser was. Incidentally, before I tell you, don't forget that you can contact us with answers to posers and any other questions you may have at our email address, which is at jollygodnata at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Fantastic, yes.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

And we have people standing by now to read all your emails. You are on standby, aren't you? Yes, good, he told you. Right, the podcast poser then. A man is pushing his car towards a hotel. And just as he arrives, he realizes he's about to go bankrupt. How is this possible? The answer is, are you ready for this? I'm looking at you intently because I want to see your facial expression when I reveal the answer. There's probably people screaming at the screen right now saying, It's this, it's this, it's this. You sure you haven't got the answer before I tell you? The answer is he's playing a game of monopoly. And the car is his playing piece, and he pushes it onto the square where there's a hotel, and he knows he can't pay the bill, so he's gonna go bankrupt.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

Boom boom.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

There you have it.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

Alright. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 26:55

I hope that hasn't been keeping you awake at night.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

The suspense was killing me, you know.

SPEAKER_00 27:00

Was it, was it? We enjoyed it so much you want another one now, don't you? Would you like another podcast poser?

SPEAKER_01 27:06

If we have to. If we have to.

SPEAKER_00 27:10

I will tell you, you know, there is people, there are people out there who travel great distances to come and meet me. And you're sitting there, you get to see me all the all these times. All you can do is say, oh, if I have to. What am I gonna do with you?

unknown 27:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

This is nice, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

It's gotta be a bit careful. The more you drink from this, the lighter it's gonna get, and it's becoming more windy, so you may spill that's why it's that's why I spite it's the whole mine.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

I shall keep hold of it then just in case. Um all right then. Here comes a podcast poser for the answer to be revealed next time. Yes?

SPEAKER_01 27:49

Yes, on the next episode, yes.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

Here comes this week's podcast poser. Are you ready? Of course, you might know the answer immediately, in which case just come out with it and then you know, there we are. Here we go. A man walks into a pub. Again, it doesn't have to be a man, but I've got to say something, haven't I? A man walks into a pub, walks up to the bar and says, Can I have a glass of water, please? And the barman reaches down behind the bar, but instead of producing a glass of water, he produces a gun and points it at him. The man says, Thank you so much, and turns around and walks out. Explain that.

unknown 28:29

Ha ha!

SPEAKER_00 28:30

Ha! Do I need to say that again, just in case you didn't get all the details.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Yeah, please. So people can pray.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

The man walks into a pub, walks up to the bar and says, Can I have a glass of water, please? And the barman reaches down and pulls out not a glass of water, but a gun and points it at the gala at the fella. And the man just says, Thank you so much, and turns around and walks out. Now there's a peculiar one, isn't it? Alright, it's interesting. Okay. So all will be revealed in the next podcast episode.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

Brilliant. Thank you. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

I I'm assuming you don't know the answer.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

No.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

Okay, don't worry, I do, so it's alright. No need to panic.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

No, definitely not, definitely not. No, I'm just trying to think. No.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

No, no.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

Okay, well, if you can't think of the answer, say some something say something, um, something else that's a bit more deep and profound. Give us a thought for the day. Let's see if we can. Cool.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

I love life.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

You do, okay. Well, I'm glad to hear about that because uh yeah, I don't think you're popping off just yet. Um so is it time for the taste test then?

SPEAKER_01 29:38

It is.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

Is it okay? Well, let's do it in that case. Tell tell the viewers what we've got for the taste test today.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

We have a mocha cake. Is it mocha mocha layer cake? Mocha loaf cake. Oh, loaf cake, that was it. Yeah. This time you opened it because I opened the last one, which is those uh pina colada.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

Oh yes. Right. Well, yes. The reason why this one is so uh look, I'll just hold it up so you can see that. The reason why this one is so um intriguing is because it's actually called a loaf cake. And I was just commenting earlier on before we started.

unknown 30:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

Of course I've heard of cakes, of course I've heard of loaves, but I don't think I've ever come across something that's called a loaf cake. Both words together in the same same title. Right. So let's open it up then. Uh you know, we always give comments about the packaging. I've got to say the packaging isn't particularly impressive, but it's a kind of home-baked thing, you see.

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Yes, well, we got it from the Costa Palace Cafe. Yes, we did. So that's the reason why.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Now how we got this is this is messy. We should have got some tissues or something. Have you got any tissues?

SPEAKER_01 30:42

I do. I do.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

Oh, you've got well, I've got some as well if you don't. See, very civilized tissues and everything. Oh, you brought a whole roll of the thing. Oh, thank you, Link. Well, I can probably break it in half inside the packet.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

That'd be a good shout.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

Actually, this is easier said. Oh, oh, the packet has just come apart. Oh, that makes it easier anyway. There we are. I can see why you asked me to do this one. Right. Right, see, that worked just as I planned. I broke it into three pieces.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

Three pieces, right.

SPEAKER_00 31:23

So I just that's got you know that's called fragmentation theory. You're gonna get a science lesson now, ladies and gentlemen. Have you heard of fragmentation theory? Well, you just have now. Fantasy you're paying attention. Right, here is what fragmentation theory is. If you imagine you take a strand of dry spaghetti and you snap it into two pieces, you'll find that you can't snap it into two pieces. It will always break into at least three pieces. That's fragmentation theory in action.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 31:53

You heard it here first, or maybe last.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

Fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 31:56

Yes. Go on then, take a piece of um of of what's it called? Lark Larte number. Mocha mocha loaf cake. Right, okay. It's easier said than done. Right, okay. That's gonna blow away, isn't it? Have you got something to weigh that down with? Right. Oh, have you started already? No. Right. Shall we go in then?

SPEAKER_01 32:24

That's pretty powerful.

SPEAKER_00 32:26

Yes. It's very dark colour actually. All the local wildlife wants some. Right. So what's your first observation then?

SPEAKER_01 32:44

Very strong flavours.

SPEAKER_00 32:46

The coffee is very prevalent.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Yeah. Very strong flavours.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

Is that is that um a double entendre for saying I don't like it? Okay. Generally speaking, any sort of coffee cake is probably not my first choice. But that's not too bad actually. And the cream on the top, very often when they put a layer of cream on something, it can often I find be a little bit too too much so. It's a bit overkill, it's a bit sort of sickly. But that was okay. I found it all right.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

I think that was just just the white amount of cream.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

The right kind of ratio and everything, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

It wasn't too gooey or anything like that at all.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

Exactly. Well you say that, but you didn't have to unra open the packet. Right, so we come to the scores, and this is the bit that always um proves to be so contentious, our scoring system your scoring system. Well, my scoring system is more proficient, it's more precise. Yeah. Well, firstly, it probably is gonna um the marking, the the scoring is probably going to incur a a modicum, a small reduction, you know, by virtue of the packaging that is not particularly imaginative.

unknown 34:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:24

But apart from that, it scores highly, I would say.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

Yeah. I'm just wondering that crow behind us. I'm just wondering if he wants to slice or she wants to slice, that's why it keeps crowing.

SPEAKER_00 34:33

Well, if it doesn't show up, I will slice it.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Yeah. Because we've got the crow over there.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

Oh the crow behind us. Well, if it had any brains, it would see we finished it now. There's none left. Well, actually, there is still a little bit left.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

Yeah. Okay, so what are you going to mark? I'll go first, have I? Yeah, because I I went first last time.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

Alright. Um, well, considerations are firstly the packaging. Um, then on the other hand, it is actually quite nice, surprisingly nice actually. Although I did find the very dark colour slightly, it made me kind of go, oh, that's very dark. If it could have been a slightly less dark, I think it would have been even more enticing.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

But do you think that the darkness was because of the coffee?

SPEAKER_00 35:15

Well, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

Because that because coffee is naturally a dark colour. That that's the thing I'm thinking here.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

Oh, yeah, but I've had coffee cake before that isn't as dark as that.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

But was it as as powerful?

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Um, in fact, it was more powerful in the lighter coloured ones, but I think this one is probably a better quality one.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

Um, but I'm tempering all of that with the uh the fact that coffee cake just isn't quite my favourite one. But it was alright, it wasn't bad. I enjoyed it. So I'm gonna give eight point two seven six. Now, I know that you're tempted to go to four decimal places, but please don't do that.

SPEAKER_01 36:01

Um I've just rounded it after the now uh the the the nearest number, which is eight point three. Okay, so thank you very much for that.

SPEAKER_00 36:08

Vote rigging, that's what that's called. Vote rigging.

SPEAKER_01 36:13

I'm gonna go with a I'll go seven and a half.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

So you're gonna round that up as well?

SPEAKER_01 36:24

Okay, so yeah. Seven and a half yeah, coffee cakes are not really my Oh not your thing either.

SPEAKER_00 36:35

No. Right. But you chose this.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 36:39

Yes. So you chose them.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

Yeah, it's always good to try even it's always good to try and educate your palate. That's it. Just because I'm I'm not I'm not saying I wouldn't eat them. I'm just saying out of if there was a selection of different cakes there, then yes, I would go for a preference over something that I would like more than the coffee cake.

SPEAKER_00 37:01

Of course, of course. And also, of course, part of the point of these taste tests at all is to try things that we haven't had before, as far as possible.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

Yes. I wonder where you got that from.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

Where I got it from. That's what we've always done.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

I said that to you when we were buying it. Well, when I bought it, sorry. That's why I'm laughing because okay, well, it shows I was listening.

SPEAKER_00 37:30

I mean, you should be pleased that someone listens to you.

SPEAKER_01 37:32

Crack me up.

SPEAKER_00 37:34

I'm worried about you.

SPEAKER_01 37:35

Not worry about you.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

Well, I wish you would. I'll give you my bank account details and all donations are great.

SPEAKER_01 37:42

Oh, brilliant, brilliant. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 37:44

Right. Now, all of this taste testing is good practice because the next episode, the next episode, we will be joined by Chris of the t-shirt, who he on this occasion, on the next occasion, is going to be providing the items notice items plural.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

Remember, it's it's two episodes. So, no, no. Oh, right. Yeah, so we discussed this. You're you're you're getting you're getting your what do you say, then you explain. Right. So we're gonna have a normal pod, but then there's gonna be another pod afterwards, which is a separate entity, which will come out later, which will be a taste test only pod. That's what we discussed, and that's what is being said.

SPEAKER_00 38:20

So are we not having a taste test next time then?

SPEAKER_01 38:22

So we're having a taste test. Yes, but on the then we're gonna have a taste test with the other items thereafter. So we're gonna choose one item as a taste test for the one.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

Ah.

SPEAKER_01 38:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

You get it?

SPEAKER_00 38:36

Yeah. Yes. Okay, well, I'm glad we got that sorted out.

SPEAKER_01 38:41

Oh, I thought we had it sorted out when we had when we spoke about it an hour ago and you agreed and you went yes, but clearly Well, I obviously wasn't listening to the stuff.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

I know, I know. The problem is the worry when you start talking, I just have this tendency to just automatically switch off.

unknown 38:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 38:57

Yes. But but please please do keep keep uh uttering your words of wisdom. Because actually you're um, I think I can honestly say you are the wisest person I know.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 39:09

I mean, apart apart from everybody else.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 39:14

Oh, it's a laugh an hour, isn't it? Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

We're we're we're we're we're wrapping up now.

SPEAKER_00 39:21

Oh, are we?

SPEAKER_01 39:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

Oh gosh. I was gonna say something deep and profound, and it's gone right out of my mind.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

The memory is going.

SPEAKER_00 39:28

Yeah, sorry, I forgot what you just said. Alright. Well, there we are.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Um this guy. But yes, so next episode will be a nor normal pod, but then the one after will be a taste test special. So it'll be various items for the taste test.

SPEAKER_00 39:47

I just remember, it's come back to me. It's come back to me. And I have mentioned this on my TikTok lives, and I will mention it again here now. Whenever we record one of our podcast episodes, you are welcome to join us if you're anywhere in the area. Okay, I always announce it in advance on the TikTok live, so you know what time it's going to be, what day it's gonna be, and if you're anywhere nearby, please do come along. Um, we'll bring you into the conversation. You can join in, participate with the taste test, with the podcast poser, you can ask questions, um, you can uh uh endure our teasing. Well, I wouldn't tease you, but he might, and um, and have well could have a lovely time. So open invitation, anytime you like.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

And also, we're all we're very close to 300 subscribers, so something special we will do on the 300 subscribers on our YouTube channel.

SPEAKER_00 40:29

There we are, you see.

SPEAKER_01 40:31

And also, there's something special we're planning planning on our one-year anniversary of our podcast.

SPEAKER_00 40:38

It's coming up soon, yes.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

So, more details closer to the time.

SPEAKER_00 40:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 40:43

Oh, yes, very special.

SPEAKER_00 40:45

Yes. In fact, we've not done too badly, really, because we haven't been going a year yet. And yet we've already already got over 60 episodes out there. How have we done that? That's more than one a week on average.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

You keep you you're you're you're not looking at the right data. Oh. I said this to you last time as well, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_00 41:02

I'm just trying to make it sound good.

SPEAKER_01 41:03

It's okay. Don't worry, it's okay. I won't worry. I'm the data guy.

SPEAKER_00 41:08

This guy is just he he dates everyone he meets. He's quite a cassanova, really. Anyway, how do you spell data, by the way? D-A-T-E-R. Yes. Anyway, right. So, okay, so we better clear off then and uh and finish our little drinkies and so on. Um, so do you have any words of farewell to say to our dear listeners and viewers?

SPEAKER_01 41:28

Be nice to each other.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

Please be nice to each other, yes. And as we always say, at the end of not only the end of every podcast, but also the end of every TikTok live. Please don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened. Thank you for your company, and we'll see you again on the next scintillating episode of A Jolly Good Natter over Coffee of Biscuits. Cheers.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

Bye bye. Bye.

unknown 41:50

Bye bye, bye.